Read Smart: In Conversation - Sally Hayden

Explore the Baillie Gifford Prize 2022 shortlist on Read Smart, as prize director Toby Mundy talks to Sally Hayden about her book My Fourth Time, We Drowned, and the role Europe plays in perpetuating the migrant crisis.

Listen now to hear how migrants are ending up in refugee camps in Libya, and the importance of using the correct language when describing their plight.

If you’re interested in learning more about the books on the shortlist, then join the Baillie Gifford Prize’s director, Toby Mundy on the podcast over the next few weeks. Toby will be talking to each of the shortlisted authors about their work and what it’s like to make the shortlist. Also join us on our social media channels where you we’ll be sharing trailers for each of the shortlist, including readings by the authors and appearances from some familiar faces explaining why they love these books.

This year’s winner will be announced on 17 November at the Science Museum at a gala dinner generously supported by the Blavatnik Family Foundation. The announcement will also be livestreamed across the Baillie Gifford Prize social channels.

Don't miss the winner of the 2022 prize being interviewed at the Cambridge Literary Festival on Sunday 20 November this year.

Read Smart Podcast is commissioned by The Baillie Gifford Prize for Non-Fiction and is generously supported by the Blavatnik Family Foundation.